gdgdgfdggfdfg (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

that clip like many other serious accidents in this day and age, shows how fragile we are as a society, no footage is shown of the crashed car after it hit the wall, because someone might be offended, motorsport is dangerous and if people cant handle that then dont watch.

fcleeren (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

As long as he stays away from road courses...

Zadan (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

You can't really whinge about Roth taking up a seat :P The dude owns the team he races with, so if he wasn't racing i doubt that seat would exist for someone else to fill :P I'd perferr to have an extra back marker team with a crap driver then not having that extra team at all !!! Pay out on Milka Duno all you want though, she has no place in an Indycar.

kelperbelcher (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Argentinian driver. and yes he is..

kingofrunescapepking (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

its funny how his car didnt damage the fence

hammerhappy243 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

that was one big crash\

fcleeren (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Then we kind of agree, no need to call names over semantics. With the unification though I do expect more talent to come through the Indy Lights, as the Atlantics are getting a bit irrelevant now. The current crop in the Firestone Indy Lights is pretty decent, and for example any European with AOWR ambitions knows that's the place he needs to be. Another problem is that there aren't much opportunities in the ICS for Indy Lights grads, especially with Duno and Roth taking up some of the seats...

gentiloser (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

I was referring to the "new" Indy Lights, as it is being marketed by IMS. Which in reality is the Indy Pro Series/Infiniti Pro Series. It has NO relation to the graduates from Indy Lights under CART. That is the point. The new Indy Lights has produced ZERO talent. Any and all talent from CART that later went to the IRL went through CART Indy Lights until it imploded.The new Indy Lights is not to be confused with the CART version that actually produced talent and meant something.

fcleeren (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Do you want me to quote you again? Just take a look at what you've said:"gentiloser:which talented IRL drivers are former indy lights grads? explain that one to me. "Do I or do I not see "Indy lights" there?I know it's not the same, but that was what you've said...Go bark under another tree, there's nothing to insult here.

gentiloser (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

dumbass, none of those are Indy Pro Series driver. They were Indy Lights drivers in a rung of the ladder under CART that ceased existence and was not restarted/retooled by CART/Champ Car.The IPS has NOTHING to do with Indy Lights. Might want to go back and look at the record books again.