dragonlee90 (September 7, 2008 at 1:22 pm)

I know what a ''socialist democracy'' is. They don't go together. Socialism is about big government, not individual freedom. Like I said before, capitalism is responsible for strong economies.

Ikazi (September 7, 2008 at 7:35 am)

Go look up Socialist Democracies, then apologise to me for being an idiot. And that's the second time you said "GDP goes in waves"

dragonlee90 (September 6, 2008 at 4:50 pm)

Actually, I did say GDP goes in waves and cycles. Socialist and democracy are two words that don't go together. The free market is something socialists don't like, so to use them countries as an example is desperate.

Ikazi (September 6, 2008 at 4:15 pm)

They're all socialist democracies. I never said they were pure socialist at all, I said they were a balanced form of government, clearly the most successful kind. Also I'm very sick of you making statistics up. And you never said more than once "GDP goes in waves"Also another interesting fact you seem to have no idea about. Central economic planning is basicly globalisation. Globalisation has one master, the United States they are the central economy of the world. God damn idiot.

dragonlee90 (September 5, 2008 at 10:51 pm)

Liberalism is making poverty fall. It isn't a coincidence that there has been a global fall in poverty as central economic planning has been shelved and globalisation has been allowed to happen. You mention the economies of Norway, Australia etc. Yet, like you have said previously, most countries have free markets. There economies are strong because of CAPITALISM. Socialism does not like capitalism. These countries are not socialist, despite what you want to believe.

dragonlee90 (September 5, 2008 at 7:15 am)

I did, and you're wrong again.

Ikazi (September 5, 2008 at 3:58 am)

You have never said "GDP goes in waves" and it makes no sense. Putin inherited a relatively stable and effective economy. Not to mention he inherited an energy superpower. Liberalism isn't making poverty fall. Liberalism is widening the gap between rich and poor. So that 10% of the population can enjoy vast wealth and riches, the rest working for the small percentage that pays as low as they possibly can. Another interesting fact is that, since China is more corrupt than ever after liberalised.

dragonlee90 (September 4, 2008 at 7:29 pm)

I have... I have repeatadly said GDP goes in waves. What Putin inherited was not the same situation of the 60's. Learn to read. It is because of the constant liberalisation in China that people are becoming more prosperous. Poverty is falling all of the time, though they still have a long way to go before they undo the horrendous effects of Maoist collectivisation.

dragonlee90 (September 4, 2008 at 7:27 pm)

Globalisation and capitalism is the reason.

Ikazi (September 4, 2008 at 9:15 am)

As for Mexico, they've been liberalised for many years. They've had access to free markets and capitalism for many years.India, yet again had access to free markets and capitalism for decades.Brazil, yet again the same as India and Mexico.Clearly you need to go look up some basic history of these countries. Most of them aren't even socialist. The reason they're all prosperous is because of the last 10 years of continuous growth in world markets.